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« on: May 13, 2012, 05:27:49 PM »

We just got back from our first weekend trip in the PUP and I think the final score card was mostly positive!  Smiley The equipment worked well. The BAL leveler was amazing! There was a slope from side to side and front to back but both bubble levels were centered. The only modification I made to the BAL was to hammer two heavy duty metal tent pegs to the side of it since it slipped about 1/4" away from the tire when it was up off the ground. Never moved after that.

I tried lighting the water heater for about ten minutes before I realized I had not turned the propane on. As soon as I did that the pilot lit first time.  Clown

The fridge stayed cold on AC and the fan was welcome (although the DW only let us have the A/C on sparingly). It was in the high 80s during the day but cooled off nice at night into the 60s.

I cooked inside the first morning but did not like all the smoke and heat so moved my griddle to the sidekick grill after that. Much better - felt more like camping.  Smiley

The Barker 10 gallon tote saw good service and needed emptying every 24 hours which surprised me. Glad I did not go with the 5 gallon. There was myself, DW, DD(10), DS(8), DS(5) and DD(10 months) plus two hounds.

The first negative was not really PUP related but we did not bring enough things to contain the baby. You forget how much floor time they have so most of the weekend was spent with someone holding her. Got to remember the pack n play etc. next time.

The big negative for me was the BUGS!  Sad Now, I'm used to tent camping and the outdoors and my house backs onto woods and we live in Florida. We are no strangers to large, numerous and sometimes dangerous or painful insects. The first night we had most windows down to the screens and I was amazed at how many little bugs were inside. Dozens of no see ums, small moths and of course it is love bug season and the campground is in a heavily wooded state park. I was taking strips of rolled over duct tape (never camp without it) to remove them from around the only light we had on in the PUP.

The second night was even more exciting. The boys and I came back from a quick sunset fishing trip to find the ladies needing bug removal. My DW showed me the size with her hands that there was a large spider in the PUP and suggested it was not the type to be squashed by a piece of paper towel. Knowing how she tends to inflate the size of such things, I went to investigate behind the valance. Nothing. Looked in the shower. Nothing. Closed the shower door and saw a 4" wolf spider next to the shower door. Put the paper towel down, grabbed a shoe and smashed it. I dismissed it as a fluke, bot wondered how something so large got inside.

About an hour later, DW points out a palmetto bug (4" cockroach) on the floor. Even as I am killing this one, DS points out another wolf spider on the valance above. This one is about 5" with nothing solid behind it and these fellas are fast. So I knock it to the floor and eventually kill it with a shoe as well.

At this point the kids are freaking out and even I am now wondering how two large spiders like that could get in. I take a walk around the PUP in the dark and see a few more large bugs, but no more spiders. Aside from the little bugs, there were no more intruders but DS did have a nightmare at 2:30 about spiders.  Sad

I was taken aback by this since I have never had anything bigger than a skeeter in my tents but I am anal about closing the zippers. I can see where there are some small gaps where the velcro attaches, especially around the slide out. Obviously there are a lot of things that vent to the outside. I did not use the awning but after a search of the forum I saw someone said it helped (but they may have meant a screen room).

Maybe the time and place also had a lot to do with it, but in order to try and minimize the kids freaking out over this stuff, what are some active steps I can take to keep the PUP better sealed when in use?
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« Reply #1 on: May 13, 2012, 06:09:29 PM »

Try and keep lights off in pup if you can at night. We camp in uppper mich and wisc. and I try to place a lantern outside at edge of site if possible to distract them  during first hours of dark. Of coarse this is tricky because you dont want to annoy neighbors. But the bugs seem to be most active the first few hours so we take care not to let them in and distract them till we get the fire going. With kids its almost impossible to keep that door closed I know. Spiders ,  I dont know about that one. Lights attract bugs. My kids always enjoy playing cards at night in pup. Led lights seem to attract bugs less I think , could be wrong. Always a balancing act with light and activity
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« Reply #2 on: May 13, 2012, 06:45:28 PM »

We use cotton balls to seal all the little nooks/crannies that a PUP has between tenting and body. It's cheap, easy, and effective. DD loves this job while we're setting up. Also, I found on our slideout a gap of about 1/4" between the body of the PUP and the slideout underneath. Would never have seen it had I not been working on it with the baseboard off. A piece of weather stripping for HD took care of that nicely.
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« Reply #3 on: May 13, 2012, 07:20:00 PM »

You guys might benefit from spraying the tenting with Permethrin.  You can learn more about it, and order it, from www.tickinfo.com

Glad that overall you had a good trip.
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« Reply #4 on: May 14, 2012, 01:14:09 AM »

Todd makes a good point. Many spray insecticide around the tires, tongue jack, hoses, power cords, etc. Anywhere there's a contact point with the ground. Also a good idea to park away from trees and bushes so none come in contact with the PUP.
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« Reply #5 on: May 14, 2012, 05:09:43 AM »

Great ideas!

I had a Coleman lantern with me but didn't think to light it since we weren't sitting outside at night. It's also the first time I have camped for a long time without a fire. I think both the light and smoke might help keep the bugs away from the PUP.

The cotton balls sound like a good one. I know the kids would enjoy helping with that. They were all over the set up and take down. Those guys really went to town on the stabilizers.  Smiley

It would be hard to persuade DW to let me spray the fabric (not organic enough  Cheesy) but I think hitting all the contact points with spray would create a barrier.

What about screening the vents? Is it even safe to have screen material over the fridge vents - I notice they get pretty warm.
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« Reply #6 on: May 14, 2012, 06:08:22 AM »

Go have a read on the website about treating the exterior of fabric (they're talking about clothing, but the tenting would be the same).

Personally, I'll take my chances with a pesticide sprayed on my fabric or clothing and DEET on my skin, vs. a bite from a disease carrying insect and a bout with Lyme Disease, Malaria, etc. or the severe damage done by some spider bites.
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« Reply #7 on: May 14, 2012, 06:23:16 AM »

As I learned on the Discovery channel Permethrin is made from crushed chrysanthemums. Can't get much more organic than that.
The best "fix" we've found is the old light and caulk method. One person inside with a strong light and another under the camper with a caulking gun. Shine the light EVERYWHERE including all cupboards and dinnete seats and caulk till there's no light showimg. Then screen the fridge, water heater and furnace vents.
Finally check for openings around canvas to hardware connections.
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« Reply #8 on: May 14, 2012, 06:52:01 AM »

Ill look into the Permethrin, but it will be a hard sell. I agree on the nastiness that can happen from a bad bug bite.
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« Reply #9 on: May 14, 2012, 10:12:05 AM »

I used hot glue to put aluminum window screening on the inside of my water heater and frig exterior door vents. Doesn't seem to impact operation of either. They also make a screen for the furnace exhaust attached with a spring. Has stayed there 3 yrs with no problem. Google Mud dauber screen.
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« Reply #10 on: May 14, 2012, 11:22:32 AM »

Just ordered some Permethrin. Looks good to use to me. I already have some screen patches for some holes on one of the screens (that window stayed closed) so I'll see if they are big enough for some of the vents.

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« Reply #11 on: May 14, 2012, 12:34:59 PM »

Shizamm, 4" roaches and 5" spiders! Shocked  I think I'll quit complaining about the bugs around here in  New Mexico!
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« Reply #12 on: May 14, 2012, 03:04:12 PM »

We live in Oregon where we only have to worry about mosquitoes in the high mountain lakes.  When we bought the pup, our dealer told us to place dog flea collars in the refrigerator switch area, under the heater and in the bottom of some of the cabinets.  He said they help repeal hornets from making nest in the refrigerator switch area and inside, they keep down misc other bugs.  We have never had a problem with spiders or any other bug except for one time at a campground where we had a couple of dozen flies get in but after a while, they all left.

Keep on camping and try the dog flea collar idea to see if it helps.

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« Reply #13 on: May 14, 2012, 05:02:57 PM »

Shizamm, 4" roaches and 5" spiders! Shocked  I think I'll quit complaining about the bugs around here in  New Mexico!

Florida is great for bugs, and they are really interesting, just not inside a PUP with the whole family!

We have fire ants in the yard, scorpions on the lanai, carpenter ants eating the wood in our homes, walking sticks and huge katydids in the summer, love bugs on our vehicles twice a year, scarab beetles in May, mud daubers, hornets, black widows, recluses, palmetto bugs, no see ums and of course mosquitoes. Never a dull moment where bugs are concerned.
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« Reply #14 on: May 14, 2012, 05:04:03 PM »


Keep on camping and try the dog flea collar idea to see if it helps.


That is another great idea! Doesn't sound like it would cost much but would help keep things out. Thanks!
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