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« on: February 16, 2012, 10:58:25 AM »

Looking at a 2001 Coleman Cheyenne.  Does this model have the ABS roof?  Haven't I read somewhere they have leak problems?  Seems to be in good shape.  Asking $3,500, too much?
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« Reply #1 on: February 16, 2012, 11:30:29 AM »

Yes, it has the later generation of the ABS roof. The ABS roof was discontinued with the 2003.5 models. The ABS saga is well documented here and on PopUp Portal if you want to read all about it. There was a leaked '02 internal Coleman memo that admitted to a 10% failure rate on ABS roofs. You might want to go to the owners manual section here and download the sales brochere for '01 for more info. on the model. Some think the later generations have a lower failure rate.

To get a better idea of whether $3500 is a good price (and that sounds about right to me if it's in good shape) you can check the NADA site for a ballpark figure. Best way is to check Craigslist near you and google that model to see what dealers and private parties are asking.
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« Reply #2 on: February 16, 2012, 04:31:04 PM »

Definitely the later generation Strata ABS roof. I have a 2002 Cheyenne with the same roof and it is in perfect condition. If the 2001 you are looking at has a good roof I would not be afraid to buy it. But if has any of the ABS roof issues starting to show, walk away.

$3500 is too much. Example, I paid $2500 for a 2002 almost 3 years ago. I got a better than average deal but I think a 2001 would max out at $2800 to 3000. And that is with AC.
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« Reply #3 on: February 16, 2012, 06:25:22 PM »

The Cheyenne is a 10 ft box, thus the roof is shorter than a 12 ft box. I would think there would be less stress on the shorter ABS roofs compared to larger/longer ABS roofs.
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« Reply #4 on: February 16, 2012, 07:39:48 PM »

The Cheyenne is a 10 ft box, thus the roof is shorter than a 12 ft box. I would think there would be less stress on the shorter ABS roofs compared to larger/longer ABS roofs.
Someone just recently made that observation.
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« Reply #5 on: February 17, 2012, 06:42:24 AM »

Thanks for the comments.  I'll take all into consideration. The roof answer really helps.
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« Reply #6 on: February 17, 2012, 07:09:21 AM »

There was a leaked '02 internal Coleman memo that admitted to a 10% failure rate on ABS roofs.

Just for the record there was no "leaked" memo vis-a-vis the infamous Fleetwood ABS roof failures as several years before 2002 the company had hosted on their website an open letter addressing these issues as they saw them at the time, circa 1998.  The failure rate publicly acknowledged at that time was 15%, 'though many of us who suffered this debacle personally because we owned an ABS roof, firmly believe this failure rate was much higher, easily 50% or more.  There are currently three ABS roof Fleetwoods on my own street, one is fine the other two are totally shot, and as well the ABS roof on my own 2000 Santa Fe suddenly de-laminated along the sidewalls near the front lift arms for no apparent reason three years into ownership. Angry  IMO, as far as Fleetwood's ABS Strata roof that was produced from 1996 to 2003 inclusive is concerned the issue of whether you get a good one or not is strictly a matter of luck ... i.e. you either get lucky Tongue or you don't. Dead
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« Reply #7 on: February 19, 2012, 07:46:11 AM »

I currently own a 2001 Coleman Mesa model that I purchased used back in October 2003. This model has a 12 foot roof with an AC unit on the roof. I was aware of the potential problems back then with the sagging, bowing of the sides, chipping, delamination, and all other potential problems associated with the ABS style roofs.

Well I purchased that PU, and have to say after all these years the roof is still in great shape. (Only a slight bow at the tip-out galley window.....not enough to seperate the seal to the box once closed up)

Not saying you could have the same experience as me, but the later versions of the ABS roofs appear to have less failure as the 1996 -  1998 versions of the ABS roofs IMHO.

 Good luck in your choice of PU's.
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