Exterior camp stove with trailer propane hook up??

[GB]

I own a 2 burner camp stove that uses the small green bottles or regualr propane tank.  I have a quick connect fitting on my Yuma and would like to buy 10' of hose with the appropriate fittings to use my large propane bottle on the p-up instead of hauling the small green bottles.

Does anyone know if I can use the hook up on my trailer for the propane feed??

[rjniles]

Your Yuma has a high pressure outside gas connection on the curb side of your PUP (on the frame rail behind the tire). With the right hose it will connect directly to you disposable bottle stove. Wal-Mart carries the hose in the camping section. This hose has screw on connections (male and female) called 1-20 thread.

[Oz and Us]

Your Yuma has a high pressure outside gas connection on the curb side of your PUP (on the frame rail behind the tire).

No, it doesn't ... with a quick disconnect fitting as described by the OP his Yuma has a low pressure feed (1 p.s.i. or less) on the curb side of his trailer that is unsuitable for powering either a high pressure stove with it's own regulator such as the Coleman stand alone camp stove or even a regulated high pressure stove that is jetted to run properly on a regulated high pressure feed of 16 p.s.i., such as those supplied with the earlier Fleetwood Grand Tour models and now again with some current Coleman models ... unfortunately the Yuma isn't one of them.  If the OP wants to run a stand alone high pressure camp stove off the trailer's propane tank he needs to T at the tank itself, before the regulator, with one leg feeding the regulator as before and the other connected to a hose he can run back to where he's located his high pressure stove, thereby bypassing that low pressure curb side feed entirely.  That high pressure tank feed will then be regulated down by the stove's built in regulator to correct pressure for the burners, just as would be the case when he runs the stove directly from 16.4 oz canisters.

[KristinU]

We just added propane to our PUP and we plan to continue to use our outdoor coleman stove with a propane tree that we have been using on a 20 lb. tank (we've been just carrying the tank with us in the TV up till now.)  Now that the tank is on the tongue we plan to attach the tree and use one of the three outlets for a hose to the stove (as we did before), the lantern at the top (as we did before) and the third outlet for the regulator hose to the PUP for the fridge.  Took us a while to find the right fitting to get from the tree to the acme fitting on the regulator hose, so I thought I'd mention it - it is a fitting that is readily available called a "steak saver" - we overlooked it a bunch of times since it seemed so specific.

[rjniles]

Oz,
I was not totally familiar with the 2007 Yuma so I looked at the Coleman website for the info brochure.

Here is the link:

http://www.colemantrailers.com/uploads/2007%20Fleetwood%20Folding%20Trailer%20Brochure.pdf

It indicates a standard 2 burner inside stove (does not show as an inside/outside stove - which would be a low pressure stove) and an optional outside stove. I suggest the OP look at the curb side frame rail to the rear of the wheel. If there is a screw type connector (1-20 thread), then that is a high pressure connector. If it is a plug-in type connector, then it is low pressure. If he has a low pressure (or no gas line at all), I would suggest using the tee arrangement at the tank.

Bob

[Oz and Us]

I suggest the OP look at the curb side frame rail to the rear of the wheel. If there is a screw type connector (1-20 thread), then that is a high pressure connector. If it is a plug-in type connector, then it is low pressure.

The OP told us in his original post he has a quick disconnect fitting ... that's low pressure as Fleetwood / Coleman uses the 1-20 threaded male fitting for regulated high pressure only.

[mstrbill]

the Yuma is destiny series camper, no destiny series has ever had a high pressure stove that I am aware of. If you look at the 2007 brochure that you referenced you will see that it doesn't reference high pressure stoves at all. Fleetwood did away with the HP stove for a number of years. If you go look at the 2008 brochure you will see that it explicitly references which campers have HP stoves, as Fleetwood bought them back for 2008.

[iloveitoutside]

I have a 2010 Yuma with the quick disconnect fittings and I also have had no luck finding a hose to operate a camp stove outside the trailer.  I have been to some local dealers and they told me i would have to pay someone to build the hose for me with that type of fitting on it.  Surely someone makes one that would thread onto a hose you can buy.  If someone knows where you can get the male fitting let me know!   My local coleman dealer sucks, they will only order parts from stagg, instead of coleman.   

[rabird]

Any of the CampChef stoves like the Weekender that has the rv connection hose as an accessory can connect to low pressure.

A run of the mill Coleman stove can not operate via low pressure since its operating pressure is 15 psi.
An ACME extend a flow tee can be used on the PU's cylinder to provide a port for most portable devices.

M B Sturgis is a source for male plugs. There are both low and high pressure versions that are not interchangeable.

[iloveitoutside]

thanks for the good info Rabird.    Do the low pressure stoves have a different fitting on them?  Nothing like what is on my run of the mill coleman camp stove?  Just curious why these hoses look so alien to me.  Ive been tent camping for years and i just bought my camper this summer.  I have got a lot to learn.  Also i noticed that my quick connect seems to be a 1/2 inch connection.  Is that normal?   

[GB]

Thanks for the quick replys.  My Yuma does have a quick connect fitting so I guess it is a low pressure feed as Oz has mentioned.  The trailer came with a RVQ so I am assumning that the RVQs are low pressure as well.

The reason I posted here as I am taking out the inside stove (2 burner) and installing a new countertop so that DW has more working space as we never cook inside the trailer.  The I was going to build a steel frame similar to the RVQ style to hold the stove on the side of the trailer.

Last month while at the RV dealer I asked the service department manager if I could use this stove outside the trailer and he told me "..no way as it is low pressure stove and it won't work on the outside hook up which is high pressure.." ??  I assume that he is wrong? based on the info provided here and if so based on that I should be able to use the inside stove outside?  What does everyone think?

Thanks again...

[Oz and Us]

Last month while at the RV dealer I asked the service department manager if I could use this stove outside the trailer and he told me "..no way as it is low pressure stove and it won't work on the outside hook up which is high pressure.." ??  I assume that he is wrong?

He's wrong.  You could use your inside low pressure stove outside using that low pressure feed but you may find performance lacking ... it's the reason Fleetwood for many years supplied their Grand Tour series with a regulated high pressure feed on the curb side of the trailer and a high pressure stove to go along with it.  That feature was dropped for a couple of models years but is now back on some models ... your Yuma isn't one of them.

FWIW, most RVQ grills were indeed low pressure and although the company did also offer a high pressure version my understanding is they didn't sell well and were discontinued.  Your's would be a low pressure version, designed to run off that low pressure feed you have on the curb side of your Yuma.

[rabird]

Your low pressure RVQ can be operated as a portable by using either of these.

Neither makes it high pressure.

GB, call the folks at M B Sturgis, they will make sure you get the correct male plug/hose if you decide to connect it up outside, your Coleman stove has about twice the BTU per burner than your inside stove! Try boiling a big pot of water with the inside stove, it will take a long time. Its BTU is limited due to its inside use.

[GB]

He's wrong.  .....but you may find performance lacking ...

Thanks Oz that is what I thought, because a friend told me that ALL inside stoves are low pressure for safe inside cooking.  I did try boiling water once inside and gave up after 10 minutes (my outside stove is usually no more than 8-10 minutes to boil).  Also I find the RVQ a very poor performer when making thick pork chops, stakes or even thick burgers it take waaay too long.

GB, call the folks at M B Sturgis, they will make sure you get the correct male plug/hose if you decide to connect it up outside, your Coleman stove has about twice the BTU per burner than your inside stove! Try boiling a big pot of water with the inside stove, it will take a long time. Its BTU is limited due to its inside use.

I can get the fittings here in Ontario, Canada at a BBQ shop, same as on my house for my home BBQ that works on natural gas.

Oz and anyone else do you think if I removed the low pressure feed completely and ran all new lines from the tank to the side of the trailer as well as a regulator for the inside for low pressure (if I can find one cheap enough) with a high pressure fitting that I could run my stove?  DW and I decided we are buying a new portable propane BBQ and will be throwing the RVQ into storage when & if we sell this trailer.

Thanks for all the replys so far

Gord

[Oz and Us]

Oz and anyone else do you think if I removed the low pressure feed completely and ran all new lines from the tank to the side of the trailer as well as a regulator for the inside for low pressure (if I can find one cheap enough) with a high pressure fitting that I could run my stove?  DW and I decided we are buying a new portable propane BBQ and will be throwing the RVQ into storage when & if we sell this trailer.

You've already got a low pressure feed on the curb side of your Yuma so you can just use it as is to run that low pressure inside stove you want to permanently remove from the inside galley, the only problem being it won't perform all that well outdoors, particularly if it's windy.  Running a high pressure line won't do you any good as you'd have to regulate it down to low pressure anyway for running that stove so the only reason you'd want one is for running a grill or stove intended to run on high pressure feed.  Keep in mind that any gas line feed run along the underside of a trailer is almost always low pressure, the one exception being the regulated high pressure feed Fleetwood installed on their Grand Tour series and which is now once again used on some Coleman models.  It's however NOT high pressure, meaning tank pressure, but regulated high pressure, meaning ~ 16 p.s.i.  I don't know this for a fact but I doubt very much that running tank pressure along the underside of any trailer would meet code.  You might want to read through this recent discussion on the topic, including my comment about the type of line that can be run under the length of a trailer and still meet code.