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« on: June 09, 2008, 01:24:07 PM »

Do you have any generator recommendations for me? i am looking for a quiet one and i only really know of the honda. I know that there are other manufactures and i was wondering if you have one or know some one that has one. (pros cons price etc)

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« Reply #1 on: June 09, 2008, 02:44:05 PM »

Honda or Yamaha.  Dem's the quiet ones.

Wattage and price run together.  You want to run the AC?  Need at least 2000 watts and that may not be enough.  Bigger engines are less stressed and can be more reliable.

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« Reply #2 on: June 10, 2008, 02:31:00 AM »

With the Honda and Yamaha models and AC, more powerful = less stressed = more quiet.

You can pick up a Honda 1000 or Yamaha 1000 for about $600. A Honda 2000 or Yamaha 2400 runs about $1000. A Honda 3000 runs about $1600. Wise Sales has good deals on these generators.

I believe that Kipor makes a set of generators with similar ranges of price, quality, quietness, and power.

If you want reliable use of AC, you want at least 3000 watts. The 3000 watt Honda has a larger tank and a remote start, but is not exactly portable (160lbs).

You can buy two Honda 2000s and a connection kit. This gives you power for AC and a bit more portability than the one larger generator.

If you just want battery charging, a 1000 watt generator will take care of your needs nicely (and is very easy to take along).

The Yamaha 2400 is significantly larger and heavier than the Honda 2000, but many have had more success with running ACs than with the Honda 2000.

If you add a start capacitor to your AC, you may have more luck with both the Honda 2000 and the Yamaha 2400.

I have a Honda 2000 and have added a start capacitor to my AC (the AC would not run with the Honda 2000 before I did that). On low current draw, I agree that the Honda 2000 is pretty quiet. Running my AC however, the Honda 2000 is plenty loud. In fact, when I am sitting inside the camper, the noise of the generator outside (placed about 10' from the back of the camper, with exhaust pointing away from the camper) is louder than the AC.

None of these generators is quiet enough to operate after quiet time in a campground, but they probably would not annoy most neighbors if they were just used to charge batteries for a couple of hours early in the day.

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« Reply #3 on: June 10, 2008, 02:37:26 AM »

What do you want if for?  Charging the batteries or using the full capabilities of your unit including a/c?

Just charging the battery, get a Honda or Yamaha 1000 and call it a day.  Want to run the a/c get a Honda 2000 and pray it works, get a Yamaha 2400 and it'll probably work, get a Honda 3000 kill your back and it will work.

BTW I have a Champion 3000/4000 but it's a little to inexpensive, noisy for most people but I do mostly use it on the road as apposed to the campground unless the power goes out.
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« Reply #4 on: August 10, 2009, 05:59:00 PM »

I will second the recommendation of Honda and Yamaha.

My FIL has the Honda 4000 inverter and it runs his air conditioning and is quiet.  Problem is, it is so big, heavy it is hard for one person to move it.  After doing some research I was pointed towards the Yamaha EF2400IS.  It will run my roof air, it is quiet, and it is quite a bit lighter than the Honda 4000, which is their smallest unit that will run roof air.  I can pick the Yamaha up and out of my 3/4 ton pick-up bed and carry it (with a little difficulty) around my campsite.

You'd have to be very strong to do that with the honda.  Also, the yamaha is very quiet and efficient.  Overall, I'm very pleased with this unit.
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« Reply #5 on: August 10, 2009, 10:11:46 PM »

I am tempted to try one of these cuz of the price- not ready to buy one yet cuz I gotta do reroof/ repairs on PUP first.
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« Reply #6 on: August 11, 2009, 03:24:44 AM »

My FIL has the Honda 4000 inverter and it runs his air conditioning and is quiet.  Problem is, it is so big, heavy it is hard for one person to move it.  After doing some research I was pointed towards the Yamaha EF2400IS.  It will run my roof air, it is quiet, and it is quite a bit lighter than the Honda 4000, which is their smallest unit that will run roof air.
 

Since Honda doesn't offer a 4000 watt inverter genset I suspect you mean the Honda EU3000is which will easily run any 13,500 BTU roof mounted A/C unit.  However, at 138 lbs dry it's a heavy unit so many interested in running A/C have been instead choosing the Yamaha EF2400is ... but it looks now though that Honda has responded by introducing the new light weight EU3000i Handi that weighs 78 lbs dry, only 8 lbs more than the Yamaha EF2400is, but far more capable of running an A/C unit.
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« Reply #7 on: August 11, 2009, 03:56:37 AM »

I'd sure like to hear what the new Honda 3000 Handi sounds like, when it is running the AC. The size and weight, plus the nice handle and wheels, make it look like a pretty good alternative to a Yamaha 2400 or the Honda 3000i. But, the noise specs for full load seem to have it in the range of a Champion. The lower end of the noise specs have it a couple db louder than the Honda 2000i too (and several db louder than the 3000i), so I would wonder about that too. The quiet purr of my Honda 2000, when it is just charging the batteries or running a hair drier, is very comfortable. But, when that steps up to the power level of running a microwave, I am very happy that the microwave doesn't tend to operate for more than a minute or two. When I could get it to run an AC (no longer, now that I have a 15Kbtu AC), it was unpleasantly loud.
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« Reply #8 on: August 11, 2009, 05:32:55 AM »

The 78 pound (empty) Honda 3000 Handi is really a 2600 watt (21.6 amp) genset with a peak power rating of 3000 watts (25 amps). 

The twice as heavy (134 pounds) EU3000iSA is 2800 watts (23.3 amps) with a surge to 3000 watts.  Not sure that makes a difference, but they're different.

The 3000 Handi is significantly louder (65dbA) than the EU3000 (58dBA) or the EU2000 (59dBA) or the lil' EU1000iA2 (59dBA) -- all at full throttle.

If you just need battery charging the EU1000iA2 is wonderful.  And she'd run my Espresso coffee pot in the morning too.  Wouldn't run the microwave, hair dryer, nor the AC.

The Honda EU6500iSA 6500 watt genset is pretty quiet at 60dBA, but weighs 300 pounds with fuel.  And has a MSRP of $4500.  Wink

Lots of PRC (Chinese) knock-off gensets on the market it seems.  The "Digital" brand has no history.  Even Kipor has a use record.

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« Reply #9 on: August 11, 2009, 06:08:54 AM »

I'll recommend the $99 (currently $149) 2 stoke 1000 watt.

I own it and it works.

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« Reply #10 on: August 11, 2009, 06:52:30 AM »

Just musing ...

Seems to me the biggest hurdle to get by when selecting a genset is whether it offers sufficient capacity to start and run a rooftop A/C unit.  Many not interested in dealing with the Honda EU3000i's weight / cost / size but are still wiling to pay for a "quiet" genset will often instead choose what I would have thought up until recently to be the better alternate - the Yamaha EF2400is, because it's nearly half the weight of the Honda yet will run a 13,500 BTU A/C (I know it does because I have a friend who owns one and can easily run his DuoTherm 13,500 BTU A/C with it).  However, running A/C means running the genset for hours on end and it certainly won't be running in the ECO (i.e. quietest) mode when under that much load.  I could see doing that during midday road side stops but in a campground I'd be pretty uncomfortable having my genset running for hours, possibly disturbing others, just because I don't want to be hot.  At the other spectrum the super light weight Honda EU1000i will easily recharge the camper battery and run something like a toaster or coffee machine, etc, but it won't ever run an A/C unit ... so I'm now wondering if the good ol' Honda EU2000is just might be the "best" genset after all, in that it can do what it's smaller brother can do with more liklihood it'll do it while running in ECO mode, plus it reportedly will run a 13,500 BTU A/C unit that's been fitted with a hard start capacitor.  Considering it costs less than a Yamaha EF2400is and is considerably lighter at just 47 lbs dry maybe it's the darling of the genset crowd after all!
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« Reply #11 on: August 11, 2009, 12:24:37 PM »

...... lets not forget that this question was asked over a year ago....  Cheesy
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« Reply #12 on: August 11, 2009, 03:00:02 PM »

...... lets not forget that this question was asked over a year ago....  Cheesy

And your point would be? Question

The OP is a new poster ... surely he has a right to ask any questions he wants whether it's been asked "over a year ago" or not ... and just as surely anyone who would like to comment on the topic also has the right to participate in the discussion ... no?
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« Reply #13 on: August 11, 2009, 05:35:30 PM »

No offense intended.... I'm not sure how you can tell who the OP was or that they are a "new poster" as their name doesn't show up and they have 0 posts listed.  I don't recall telling anyone they can't post a question or comment.
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« Reply #14 on: August 11, 2009, 05:51:26 PM »

...... lets not forget that this question was asked over a year ago....  Cheesy

The question is timeless - when one thread dies, you can bet that another will pop up with the same question within a month. Shy

Interestingly, the answers continue to develop new dimensions though. OzAndUs mentions the new Honda 3000 handi. Just the other day, I saw a Yamaha 2000i at Cabela's - same size and weight as the Honda 2000i. So, if you like the Honda 2000, but wish it came in blue, you can have it in a Yamaha now Cool.

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